Hi "zenmack" try these links:

Austria > http://www.humandesignsystem.info/ShopDownloads/

England > http://www.humandesign.info/online-shop.html

USA > http://humandesignamerica.com/page/miod/Web_Store.html

And there you find basic CD´s
and also links to other HDS sites

Greetings
Olaf

Hello mmaster

I am not aware of any information about the 59/6 being a new channel. I have asked about the design of the bodygraph prior to the evolution of the nine-centered being in 1781 and I was told that Ra was not given this information. So we can only speculate about which are the two new centers and corresponding channels.

What we do know is that the solar plexus center will be the 'center' of the mutation that will bring the new rave children in 2027. Ra has said that this will essentially revolve around the 55th gate.

There are several places where you can find more information about this topic - there is a booklet available from humandesignameria.com called 'Solar Plexus Mutation: 2027' and also in the JAM player (download from jovianarchive.com) there are some recording in the Channel 88 section that you can purchase.

Warm Regards

Ruth

try an email to them...

anyone looked to see if there's an overlap with ayurveda ?

In response to your question "as to what we are actually striving to establish"

Don't pay too much attention to those trite little aphorisms. Spend time with the people whose company you enjoy. Spend time with people from whom you learn things of value. Spend time alone.

thanks Kip.

Channel of Abstraction loves to unravel the patters of all things. :)

thanks for bringing the feeling of things, back to earth ;)

appreciated the to the point short an sweetness of your post

made me wonder - what's your stance on kids an the santa lie ?

I have come to understand the following with respect to resitance/nonresistance:

resistance/ nonresistance is above all a perception of our process when it is compared to our idea of how our process should be

1- when we are talking about resistance Vs non-resistance we are talking about the abstract process. Everyone's life is being developed as part of the abstract process even if you've got no definitions there.

2- the abstract process is the human process of living, and that we all live our lives on this way .....some of us are actively producing learning for others and urselves as part of this life time tasks (when channels are defined). After al we all work for the species.

3- resistance and non-resistance is a very complex issue. It is part of our learning process, of lerning daily about life by living, as opposed to learning from a logical system like HD.

4- for instance we learn HD as a logic system. what we learn here is a concept. One still has to go and experiment with it every day. One has to apply Hd to one's abstract process and it is here where we create our lessons.

5- our lessosn in life can be experienced by us as resistance, since we do not get what we mentally thought we wanted to get, but is this really resistance?

6- my point to you is that you not achieving what you want with your mind is not necessarily the same as you experiencing resistance. Resistance is a perception which has been compared with a mental pattern of how things should be.

7- we can learn so much each moment of our life, since there is pain and many life times of stuggle. There is so much that one's ego can take, so when we can not expand and get everything we want it is not necessarily what we call resistance (or is it?). We could be creating opportunities for us to grow at our own pace, for us to deal with the situation we need to deal before we can expand to that state we believe is good for us.

8- It is perceived as resistance, I have to agree with you, but is it all the time?

so is stuck and proacitive
and they all came out of the 80s business consultant trend

there's line and when you cross it all the erroneous concepts that came before it fall away

people think i'm stuck - but i am a master of timing [or sposed to be]
so some dickhead consult life coach [excluding good ones obviously] tells me i'm stuck

someone buys me "excuse me your life is waiting"
i should have said - yes my life IS waiting

ps - i google the author and she committed suicide

all this shows the DARK side of consulting and coaching [see story following]

this bizarre parallel reality where words take on bizarre new meanings and chocolate companies start expanding into petrol products
see the history of cadbury and if you're lucky the bbc series "sharks in the boardroom"

its a not-self facade turned reality and true farmers have seen it for years...
its not about fighting, denying or avoiding nature...its about working with it maturely with insight and honed instincts

and yet the consultant trade had its dark side

A sheep farmer is tending his flock when a city slicker rolls up in
his BMW, hops out and asks, "Hey, if I tell you exactly how many sheep
you have, can I take one?" The farmer nods, so the city slicker opens
his laptop, calls up some satellite photos, runs some algorithms, and
announces, "You have 1,432 sheep."

Impressed, the farmer says, "You're right. Go ahead and take one." So
the city slicker loads one of the animals into the backseat of the
car. "Now," says the farmer, "if I tell you what you do for a living,
can I have it back?"

A gaming sort, the city slicker says, "Sure."

"You're a consultant," says the farmer.

"Wow!" says the consultant. "How'd you know?"

"Well," says the farmer, "you showed up even though I never asked you
to. You told me something I already knew. And you don't know anything
about my business. Now give me back my dog."

sorry! you really left me behind. I can not follow you!

I have come to understand the following with respect to resitance/nonresistance:

resistance/ nonresistance is above all a perception of our process when it is compared to our idea of how our process should be

yup and anyone who tells you differnent probably thinks a dog is a
sheep

for 64pluto
I really like you and your insights. I am really trying to get the idea of what you write because my instincts tell me you've got something interesting to say...at least very interesting to me (can not speak for others).
However I can not follow you because your mind obviously flows in a different way, and that's what makes it interesting to me.
Now, somehow I got the impression that you are making fun of my comments?
this phrase:

"yup and anyone who tells you differnent probably thinks a dog is a
sheep"

what do you mean by that?

the Hieght of HD and LIFE is to be yourself and not to be your Not self

humanity is open to trends - since the 80s we have seen the trend of consultants - and now we have coaches

now there are two kinds of coach/consultants - those who are being themselves and those who are being their not selves

Abe Lincoln

he wanted to free the slaves but he would have kept slavery if it would have united the union... ie he knew the limits of his mandate

take the enron fiasco - the guys at the top of enron wrote their own mandate and lost other peoples money

my big beef is - they bought a power company and then when enron went under the hard working linesmen lost their pensions

this is a worst case scenario of bad coaching / leadership

just because something is "fashionable" does not make it true

the dog line was in reference to the joke above...

some people think churches are bad because they are tax deductable

yet a business expense is tax deductable - so a "consultant" is tax deductable

ie - he doesn't have to earn his keep and prove his worth - because its a tax write off anyway... there isn't a "real" world accountability

i guess what i'm saying in a round about way is - just because consultancy and coaching is fashionable doesn't mean it isn't an industry full of flakes who maintain their arrogance/ignorance thru this lack of accountability or some unprovable new age paradigm

I'm not saying there aren't good, talented people involved - there are - but it is an industry with a dark side too

the art of Guiding is about

1 recognising if you are the person to help - not recognising that the person needs help... ie just cos you know you have the answer doesn't mean the person wants it from you
2 helping a person become a better them - not a clone of you [HD is so good for this because it is a paradigm based on recognising difference and individuality

fashion has a power - and can bring luck to the talentless

but guides need to be above that luck

hope that helps....

i don't know about you - but i enjoy talking to projectors even when wrtting styles are different - there is a common ideal of guiding humanity for the comman good - not out of an expression of personal identity [ego ?]

so we do seem to sense each other

as socrates said

are we here to show are debating skills by scoring points on each other - or is this a mutual exploration of truth

i think we always prefer the latter tho it is not always available with "competitive" types

just to emphasise the point again

i have several times had two people tell me the same thing

but i sensed the compassion and integrity of the one person and the corruption of the other

the same truth can be used as an expression of self or not self

i hate people that say - trust me - i say - find out if you can trust me

take the time to hone your senses and put me to the test - see if you can trust me as far as you can throw me....

cosultancy and coaching as a business often bypasses this test for speed of doing business.... but there is an effectiveness in working with people you have taken the time to sense their integrity....
instead of simply trusting them because it was convenient

very well pluto64, very interesting indeed, I also now understand that your comments about consultants-from-the-80's, sheeps and dogs have obviously nothing to do with my very original comment I wrote about resistance/non-resistance
.....I guess you were refering to someone else...

Nuccio I totally agree. Human Design has so powerfully let me become the person I am designed to be. It blows me away how powerful this is!! I have not changed, it is more like I've just shed some layers. Like an onion (yes i did shed a tear!). But as each layer is shed I feel lighter. The first experience was when I got my reading. WOw. Then I went through some heavy stuff, maybe because of that. Then the study started. THe experiment as they say. Hoping it will never end!