intuitivemove
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what does this cross mean?. Im a 5/2 projector, with ajna and throat defined. Also I have no inner authority. This kind of disturbs me not to have an inner authority....thanks for your answers!

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intuitivemove
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Could you please translate in english..thanks

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intuitivemove
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Thats my link reply above..I keep forgetting to log in...intuitivemove

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Thanks camac! Ive always felt I had some major calling. I just couldnt figure it out. I think I know what it is...sort of.....Back in January of this year, I felt this calling to be an actor...Im 38 and this just felt weird but at the same time it felt right. The problem with this is trying to figure out how to go about doing it. I really like foreign films and want to maybe go to Europe and see what I can do. But as a Projector, I felt like maybe I should send a headshot and wait to get invited. Seems like the way to go...we'll see.....intuitivemove


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Howdy intuitivemove,

Richard Rudd, in the booklet "Opening Doors with Gene Keys", describes the 5/2 profile as "People who have a great deal expected of them, but would rather be left alone. They have to be self-motivated."

On Jovian Archive Radio in the past few weeks, Ra described the 5/2 profile as one of the harmonic profiles, where the 5th line is harmonic (same trigram position) with the second line. The not-self characteristics that can emerge are the "heretical hermit". But the second line is a hermit with a "calling" in life and emerges when they are called out by someone. In the case of the 5th line personality, there is once again the aspect of having a calling or a hidden mission or talent but that this has to be brought out by the individual themselves rather than being called out by someone else.

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64pluto
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carmac wrote

In the case of the 5th line personality, there is once again the aspect of having a calling or a hidden mission or talent but that this has to be brought out by the individual themselves rather than being called out by someone else.

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how does this work for a projector?????


intuitivemove
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Yes...my birthday is November 10, 1966. I intuively knew before I knew anything about Human Design that I had to wait.... or I would describe it as a certain dance with relationships and other things. But then certain things I took the intiative and they worked out fine. I understand that certain transits temporarily change your framework. And also certain people do. Really I knew all of this about me before finding Human Design. I just knew it. I can be somewhat defiant I suppose. But only for the better. My interested in my 5/2 aspect. Can anybody elaborate on that?...thanks for all your input. I enjoy what you write!
-intuitivemove

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It seems once again the numbers have caused confusion. Using November as the birth month it is Cross of Defiance; with no inner authority., and no conscious awareness of where your spoken ideas come from. They surprise you probably more than others. If you can make yourself understood you will be thought of as a genius, otherwise a nutcase.

;you also have gate 62, unconscious, so will not be aware that you need to focus on details and gate 56, again unconscious which may cause you to feel intense frustration if you feel excluded from a process. (Such as understanding Human Design - it takes time to learn - as I well know ;) )


camac
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Best to reconfirm the birth date: Oct 11 or Nov 10 as that is what makes the difference.

Also being a mental projector with the same channel 23/43 I was also surprised about having no inner authority. But for me, it makes some sense as I only get an idea of what I need to do or understand or even know when I hear myself tell someone else. There is a reliable mechanism in me but it takes time and talking to bring out its depth. a bit like the emotional wave only also a bit like manifesting and generating all over the course of 28 or so days.

In a sense, the processing of everyone else's energies through our open centers is providing us with intuition of a different sort. After all, our defined channel is the channel of structuring and it is processing over all time and provides an amazing integration of what has been experienced.

For me Human Design has provided a framework that brings together all of the experiences I have had and explains them logically. That doesn't guarantee that Human Design is true, it just helps me put my life into an understandable perspective.

On the other hand, your defiance of what Human Design indicates about you is within your design - in your incarnation cross.

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Craig

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intuitivemove
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Ok..thanks...sounds more like me...I know in mayan astrology, I am a Yellow Electric Warrior....intuitivemove

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Beemalchik
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MMI.

You are still a Projector. You have inner authority - your self.
You have defined G and Ego, which is by the way very competitive - these centres are defined in your chart by the Channel of Initiation. And 51 gate - part of this Channel - is gate of warrior.

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intuitivemove
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What software are you using? Am I still a projector with no inner authority?

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Beemalchik
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According to my sofware you are defined in your Head, Adjna, Throat, G-center and Ego. Profile 4\6. Right angle cross of Penetration.

As to cheking... I guess it is misunderstanding... May be my English is not perfect to understand you correctly... May be you are not enough clear in your explanation...

Anyway if you born 11.10.1966, 13:15. Chattanooga - you have totally another chart that you thought before.

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intuitivemove
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Check your 1st post.
You said I can not trust my intuition or my instinct. You also said I can not trust my emotions. You wrote it above in your first posting, check it out. Also im not saying human design is good or bad. Never said that in my in any of my postings....
intuitivemove

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Beemalchik
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Hello!

intuitivemove wrote:
No disrespect....but for you to say i cant trust my intuition or my emotions is absurd.

I didn't say that you can trust your intuition or emotions.

And there is nothing good or bad if you prefer astrology. Well... how it is.

I prefer Human Design.

Beemala

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intuitivemove
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No disrespect....but for you to say i cant trust my intuition or my emotions is absurd. Time after time my intuition has been very valuable. I think im done with this human design system. I think this system is very lacking in some areas. Theres something to this system, but it is basically off the mark. Some things dont add up. It can be a fun game to play though. I think astrology is more reliable than this.....intuitivemove

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Beemalchik
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Hello, dear intuitivemove!

To have no inner authority does not mean that you are somebody, who doesn’t feel people around. More over – being so open (just 2 centers defined) – you are here exactly for taking in (mechanically) the energies of another people and thus to be very sensitive to people around you and to become wise about the nature of this energies.

About the nature of intuition and health (Spleen), about the nature of emotions, feelings (Sol. Plexus), about the nature of life and sex (Sacral), nature of stress (Root), nature of love and direction (G), nature of willpower (Ego), nature of inspiration (Head). If you really know that all this energies inside you – are not yours – then, you could just watch, how they work through mechanically conditioning of your body.

And – logically - if all these energies are not yours – how you could trust them? That is why - we are talking about no inner authority in your design. You can not trust your intuition or instinct – you have no constant work of this energy inside you. You can not trust your emotions - you always take in somebody’s good mood or bad mood… and so on…

Still you have something to trust in your life – it is your own design, your own genetic code, your own body, which is designed to be a Projector in this life. To be somebody, who are here for waiting for recognition and appreciation and invitation from another people. You are here not to initiate relashionships with another people – but for waiting until they could see your gifts and until they want you and invite you in their lives.

(By the way - best way to know these things to take HD Reading)

All the best - Beemala

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merlin
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whoa! I didn't mean to upset you.
we're talking about your chart in this thread. if you have it up everyone who reads this thread can see it, which will increase the number of people who have something to say. Which is interesting.

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intuitivemove
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OOps i forgot to log in..thats my post above..intuitivemove

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Hey merlin....I could care less if you have time or not...I didnt ask for a reading of my chart, and for $10 to put the chart in the library so that you can see it is absurd...sorry charlie


merlin
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I don't have time to make up your chart. put it in library and your footer.

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intuitivemove
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Hey merlin, Ill give you my numbers..
Born 11/10/66
Location Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Time 1:15pm EST or 13:15 EST

Now back to the inner authority....I have always felt pretty intuitive about people and things in my life(hence my name), so I couldnt understand the no inner authority thing. I feel like I have a pretty good gut feeling on things. I have that genius to freak channel going...where I just know without really knowing how...that may have something to do with it.

Intuitivemove

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merlin
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hi intuitivelove,
what is your chart? you can post it in the footer of your messages:
http://humandesignonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=313

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camac
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Howdy intuitivemove,

Welcome fellow mental projector!

I can fully relate to your lack of inner authority as I am in the same boat. We have explored this topic a bit in another thread in another section:
http://www.humandesignonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179
When I found out that I had no inner authority I was also a bit disturbed but when I was able to look back at what I have experienced in my life, I can see that I really do need and have taken time (weeks and months) for major decisions. Being able to talk about these major decisions (really only to hear what I am saying about it at the time) during these time spans is really beneficial and wasn't available to me for much of my life.

I can't really say much about the cross of defiance other than the fact that it is a left angle cross means that ultimately your "purpose" will require interactions with other people in order for you to feel fulfilled. Since you are a projector, the 'defiance' will need to be invited by others or it would be unwelcome. At least that is how I theorize on it - what about your own personal experience? What kinds of interactions do you tend to have and when do they feel 'right' or 'wrong'? Generally speaking, the incarnation crosses really begin to express when we are living our designs. For us projectors, that means being recognized appropriately in the areas of careers, relationships, etc. and being invited into those careers and relationships that truly are comfortable for us.

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Craig

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