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superprojector
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hello!
Being a projector with head, ajna, and throat defined (in fact I am missing only half a channel from those 6 channels)I am fascinated with the potential of all these activities.
It is not easy for me to be satisfied with what is written about these centres, really, and the need for research feels overwhelming to me.

I am wandering whether there is somebody else out there with lots of definition in their head who feels something similar. Somebody interested in establshing communication about all these activities. Somebody interested in sharing and comparing the wanders of their minds with mine.
WE could share some research about our minds, or simply contrast information.

I have specific ideas about mind processes. Specific ideas about those mind-processes connected to the throat, about their purpose, processes which seem to me go beyond social communication, etc etc.

Just let me know whether there is somebody interested.
thanks in advance and ...let's explore our minds!!!

mabress
Posts: 2
Joined: 2007-08-21

head and ajna defined

Superprojector,

I am one with head down to G-Center all defined, and that is it. I have a 5/1 profile, and I am going crazy trying to learn as mush as I can about Human Design since I was introduced to it, on July 4, 2007. I totally live in my head, and haven't even nailed down processes within. I have been floating around in my head forever trying to grasp at anything grounding in my life- relationships included. Finding HD has been so much of a relief for me in so many ways. I know now that I am now any more weird than anyone else on this planet

I would really enjoy some dialog on the wanderings of our minds, how the may be parallel, and how they may be quite different.

Hopefully you are still interested after all these months.

Marie

superprojector
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for mabress

I have tried asking for your e-mail address to the administrator but I get no response. So that you know I have tried. Still interested in making the contact.

superprojector
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Joined: 2007-01-16

for Marie

hello
I believe we have been trying to post at the same time...right now you posted and I was trying to get in and that was difficult, perhaps because you were there...
Yes, I am interested in getting in contact with you. Let's explore our mind processes. Is there any way way we could give eachother our e-mail address without they being posted publicly?

ruthrelf
Posts: 64
Joined: 2004-07-30

Head and Ajna Undefined

Hello Superprojector!

I do not feel I am the buddy you seek, but perhaps we can learn something from each other, being as you are very defined in head/ajna and I am not at all. I have some dormant gates - 61.3 and 47.5 /47.3, but no definition.

I thought I could tell you what I am learning it is like to be open in these centers.

I have spent of lot of time trying to find some certainty in my life but I am learning I am not certain about ANYTHING, even (when it comes right down to it) Human Design. And I am slowly realising I never will be which is somewhat hard to come to terms with.

It is very easy for me to get 'trapped' (for lack of better words) in the mindset of people with defined ajna's. I CANNOT argue my way out of concepts they present when I am in their aura, even though I feel through my response that what they are saying does not gel with me. This gets particularly difficult with close relationships, becuase then all the other conditioning starts playing in to - wanting to prove myself but not wanting to rock the boat etc. etc. So I have felt forced to agree with people and this gets me into lots of trouble later, or I have to say I don't agree but I can't explain why, and people don't generally like that.

The other side of course is that I can be very stimulated by lots of different ways of thinking, and I am slowly learning how to enjoy this.

I am sure you were told in your foundation reading that you are very certain about things - you would have strong opinions I imagine especially if your definition is conscious. You need to trust that certainty - it is part of your purpose. However, be aware of the effect that you have on open head/ajna's as I described above.

I feel it is very interesting that you wrote that you have specific ideas about mind processes ;). I INVITE you to share your ideas in this forum - continue this thread in the Human Design Community section, or perhaps write an article.

I would be interested in knowing whether your definition is conscious or unconscious as I feel this makes a huge difference to how people experience their definition.

I am also very interested in knowing about what it is like to experience both logical and abstract thought processes at the same time - I don't understand how this would work. I know someone who has the 11/56 and the 9/52, so they have abstract mental energy but logical format energy, and I am trying to observe how this works in them.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Ruth

4/6 Generator, RAX Vessel of Love

superprojector
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Joined: 2007-01-16

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dear ruthfelf
let me try to answer some of your questions....
My mental definitions are all unconscious, but perhaps because I am 46 years old I am very "conscious" of my mind processes and let me explain you how.
It is as if I could watch them all happening.
They ("my" mental processes) do not surprise me any longer and I do really rely on them. I feel totaly secure about them. They always save my day when it comes to dealing with issues that have nothing to do with my own life.
They also save me every day from boredom.

Now, that does not mean that I control my mind processes...Not at all! but I hardly feel any need to control them because they are so reliable and so versatile...They do not follow my will but they always behave in a magnificent way and never ever let me down.
I find myself being ready for any mental activity of any kind because iN fact I can hardly get rid of all this activity while in my daily consciousness.

"My" mind processes have however a life of their own, they do not feel to me as if they were mine ( in fact I do not think of them as "mine")...
These days when I give my opinions I always say:
"my mind thinks that...." -and I explain what "my" mind thinks-.
It is certainly not I who thinks...I believe "my" mind to be tuned with mental processes that exist out there.
Every thing is not so nice though. I am used to "my" mind interfereing with my "normal" interactions with people, since "it" (my mind) always knows what is going on. Please understand that "my" mind seems to know all the patterns that have ever existed and those that are being created. "It" recognises the patterns inmediately and informs me of what is REALLY going on....As result, I end up very dissapointed with people I would rather like BECAUSE PEOPLE ALMOST NEVER TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON AND try to create stories with their minds that can not hide from "my" mind scrutiny.
This is very sad and uncomfortable.
"My" mind is indeed able to understand all subjects and is a "natural" at understanding anything and everything which is out there (from physics to psychology to HD to anything).
I do handle very confortably abstract and logic processes without any problem at all. The curious thing is that logic-only people perceive me as chaotic and abstract-only people perceive me as linear, logic and unflexible.
The truth is that very few people can handle both ways of thinking and get scared of the other way.

Now dear ruthfelt: If I were you I would be totally reasured in the following: people with defined minds are not the owners of their minds.
IF YOU would REALLY BELIEVE THIS STATEMENT YOU WERE TO NEVER EVER FEEL INSECURE WHEN IN pRESENCE OF A DEFINED MIND.
Now, do not miss that many people with defined minds get to be defined in one or other way only: they are either abstract or logic. It is very rare to get full definition for both.
If I were you I would aim at learning to use those ones with a mind like mind. This is exactly what my husband (with his totally undefined mind)does with me.
There is no need at all to compete with such minds and let me remind you why:
All those mental channels are PROJECTOR channels...which means that unless "they" are invited to speak, they will never be received properly. They will never be accepted by the others.
NEVER!
Do you get my point? If not, I will gladly explain myself further.

There are other mental processes I would like to discuss with people with defined minds....I see you are INVITING me to talk about that here and I feel very-very tempted to explain myself but am a little scared of people's reactions....You see, I do not find many explanations about the mental processes of the defined heads in HD literature....You know how is that...this HD business has been instutionalised so I do get a little scared and would like not to expose myself publicly.

yolandejoan
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Joined: 2007-09-12

defined mind

Hello Superprojector*:)

Being a Projector myself, 5/1, with only my? head and anja defined, I am so happy I found you on this forum, I discovered Human Design 1 year ago, I had a reading, and was very relieved , for I wasn't losing my mind, but am designed like this, but also got very confused, what to do with this mind that realy seems out of my controll, I searched on the internet for answers, sended emails to any projectors that give readings, to ask more information, but till now I didn't find any1 yet that could give me some clear information, or shared some of my thoughts. I have difficulties with trusting people, close people around me tell me I should learn to focus on myself, that I make it all up, when I feel or think sudden negative thoughts, they say, it's only in your head..... They are right.... but did I make it up, is it because I am so insecure?? When I am by myself I am not insecure at all. I would like to understand, so I can live with it and trust that head. You understand?
Hope to discuss with you soon,
best regards * : )

superprojector
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for yolandejoan

I have tried asking for your e-mail address to the administrator but I get no response. So that you know I have tried. Still interested in making the contact.

superprojector
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Joined: 2007-01-16

for yolandejoan

dear I would love to get in contact with you and share this phenomena of the "defined minds". I will ask the administrator to provide us with each other addresses, to start communicating in private.

mabress
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Joined: 2007-08-21

defined mind

Greetings yolandejoan,

I am also a Projector 5/1, with a defined mind, ajna, throat, and G-center. I would very much enjoy discussing what it is to be a projector, 5/1, and the differences that we have experienced having like/and different centers defined.

Have a great day!

Marie

uncertainty4eve
Posts: 3
Joined: 2007-08-15

defined mind

Greetings all

I too am a Projector 6/2 with defined mind, ajna, throat and G centre. I share the frustrations of not being able to find enough information to satisfy my 'need to know' and would love to join any discussions going about this. I really want to study and learn more about HDS and the best way to do that seems to be to discuss!

Looking forward to some good ol' intellectual stuff here, if that's appropriate.

superprojector
Posts: 43
Joined: 2007-01-16

for uncertainty

I have tried asking for your e-mail address to the administrator but I get no response. So that you know I have tried. Still interested in making the contact.

plotinus
Posts: 9
Joined: 2007-07-02

abstract minds

I have read your posts and I would love to chat with you. I have had a reading done for myself and my son....a gift from another member at this site. The readings were very informative and validating.
My son is autistic and the biggest blessing in my life. He is what brought me to HD. I have many,many unanswered questions.
I am a 4/1 ,triple split, Manifesting Generator...yes with the 34-20 and I have been told that I am ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY OBSESSED which is absolutely and totally correct. I was told that I have a logical mind yet, I do have the gate 64 unconscious in my design in my north node.I was told that I am ON THE RIGHT and my son IS ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT.
I find your ideas fascinating. I am including my email address as it looks from past posts that it has been difficult for others to hook up with you. My email is.... hdsncnn@yahoo.com
Take care
Connie

tigerbeam
Posts: 1
Joined: 2007-01-16

abstract minds

Howdy
11.1-56.6 here. if it were a genuine hd-label i would call myself an almost-reflector as my definition is half unconscious, and I am quite open. Nevertheless i can trust my abstract ways of thinking. As far as i know my definition is part the "memory complex" as i call it, and there is good reason for that: often I have been asked about the differences between abstract and logical thinking and the picture I have got about it suits my definition very well. Much in abstract thinking is about memory.