i would love any wisdom from any spleenic projectors who are now 'living their bliss' ,
what they found most valuable in getting there
how long it actually took
thank you and blessings neena*
well nenna, I did not get to the bliss yet, however one of the things I inmediately recognised (we are good at this, aren't we?)recognised as "a bliss" was my splenic definition.
I must say I am happy to have it defined and I do not even need much explanation to see how it works for me. It does and it does always. More, I know I am good at these things before I read it in HD. So I inmediately RECOGNISED this bliss.
But I must say this bliss is not always connected to my struggle for the invitation-thing. The projector struggle is not so much with the invitation-thing but with the no-invitation thing.
I mean that we do not struggle so much when we get the invitations. WE struggle in order to be able to wait for the invitation.
My struggle is that the invitation might not come...and so I jump!and struggle as result...
With my spleen I know what's good for me. That's not my problem at all. I know it and I know it in the momment. AFter knowing HD I stopped my mind from interfering in my decision making (got a totally defined mind down to the throat).
I believe I've got plenty of awareness to be able to do just that, to see myself doing whatever it is that I do in my "inner spaces".
I also believe that the inner struggle for "the invitation that never comes" s an indication of what we should be doing with in our inner space, but do not want to elaborate on this one because that was not the original question.
I hope this contributes
I've been "living my bliss" for six years now. Just kidding.
When I got my reading six years ago, I was told that as a projector things
will really not taking hold until after about three years of practicing my
strategy. This couldn't have been more true. Ra says all of the time that
for projectors it takes seven years to really understand this business of
recognition and invitations. I think he's right. But I really like this
splenic intuition thing. I feel like it gives me a special advantage (all
projectors like to feel special...right?).
It's fun to see what my spleen says and try to just let it guide me. I also
have mental definition and at times I can actually watch my mind debate my
spleen. The spleen has no memory. It gives instantaneous answers moment by
moment. My mind can ask my spleen the same question every few minutes just
to see what happens. I will have to admit, however, that I have to have a
couple of beers in me in order to calm my mind down enough to where I can
just let this whole thing fly.
I hope this helps you on your journey. Remember, it only gets better with
every day that passes.
Cheers,
Randy
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i would love any wisdom from any spleenic projectors who are now 'living
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what they found most valuable in getting there
how long it actually took
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I have a splenic projector daughter and am very interested in this topic as
well.
Many thanks in advance to those who respond.
Fran
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At the beginning of my encounter with HD I seemed to be attracted to much definition (the more the better), I wanted more definition that I had and wanted to be defined as many other people are....I though been defined was an advantage....
I have turned around 180 degrees.
lately I am recognising the trouble that comes with definition...Im becoming aware of this phenomena.
I see defined people struggling a lot and it gets better: I see myself struggling with my defined centres...not with my undefined ones, as far as I stay alone and let nobody invade me for very long time indeed.
Invasion by defined people feels unpleasant and very much so...defined people are too rough for my undefined centers....do not like it at all!!!!
My defined centers are the ones that bring me limitation and struggle....However I still regard my defined spleen as a bliss....would not want to have anything else defined but the spleen. Why?
The definition is perceived by me as a pick-headed part of me....With my defined centers I feel trapped and feel that I can hardly get out of that jacket....But because the defined spleen speaks only once, it feels like a soft definition....It is so pleasant because one can count on it but it does not overwhelm my system...
Do I make sense?
O yes, you make sense to me, that's for sure. Especially the part: I see defined people struggling a lot and it gets better: I see myself struggling with my defined centres...not with my undefined ones, as far as I stay alone and let nobody invade me for very long time indeed.
Invasion by defined people feels unpleasant and very much so...defined people are too rough for my undefined centers....do not like it at all!!!!
That's my question too: how to handle an open centre? One of the main issues in my life is having an open Self centre and being very vulnerable about the people I’m hanging out with. The people that surround me, have to be uplifting for me, and giving me a good feeling and direction in life.
I’m learning how to handle emotions, and how to handle thoughts, but how can I handle people that are not supporting me? Are there other possibility’s than just walking away? (That’s my only defence.)
dear
I've got an undefeined self center, too.
sad people makes me sad.
happy people makes me happy.
Envious people make me sick.
Angry people make me boil...
Run away and look for nature, the only stable thing for an undefined self center is nature.
The sea is the best, seating under a tree or walking in the forest is soothing.
What's good about having this center undefined?
It is good that you know who is who. People with defined self centers do not know who is who. You surely do.
Do you want to hang out with somebody envious?
That's the worse on Earth and there are so many jelous people in our culture. Our culture promotes envy and jealousy...
Get the hell away from envious people they are trouble! and you can do so because you "can" know who is who.
I believe this to be the only possibility...but maybe I am wrong.
I am defined with only one channel. The spleen to the G center. And I am very thankful for that. Upon learning that I was a projector about a year and a half ago, truly begun the process of understanding so much about my non self. And how that played out in so many unfavorable ways for me. Then I would let my mind beat me up about messing up. I was living thru my open centers and trying to prove I was enough, or not knowing when enough is enough ect. And no matter how hard I tried and did rather well at it, others would find fault with most of all I would do. But worst of all is have I then would also find fault with either trying at all or not trying enough. Well know I do not have to do that. In fact I have to wait for the invitation. What a blessing to know that. My spleen has always spoken to me. One time it told me this relationship will soon be over, because you are in the relationship to help guide him to the right doctor for his son's well being.[I did not know that at the time] And when the father[my boyfriend] took the guidance. That is when I heard my spleen speak to me from one of my gates that speaks from the right external ear. This was before I knew about HD. By the way his son had a version of Austism and from an early age, no one figured it out. He was in his early 20's when I meet him. And he has now completed college and has a girlfriend. And his dad and his mother got back together. Would I trade that to still be in the relationship with that fellow? NO WAY. My being a projector is a grace especially when we can guide the children. I am also friends with his wife. By the way I was invited by the fellow to go out with him. But neither of us knew the true reason why he responsed to me by inviting me to be his girlfriend. I know he was a generator, why because my speen knows. I have alot of studying to do as a projector. So waiting for the invitation I am kept busy with studying HD. Thank you all for sharing.

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