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mandir
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homework

I’m a little behind with my homework, but I’ll catch up soon...

My throat activations:

- 8 (conscious)
- 62 (conscious)
- 31 (conscious & unconscious)
-20 (unconscious)

Connected to my channels, they would produce:

- I am busy now thinking and/or making a contribution (and possibly overextending myself) to influence others into wanting to be intimate with me... :)

My experience of having my throat defined through an unconscious channel (Charisma) is that I never know in advance when acting and talking accurately will take place. My mind doesn’t have a clue, and even when I reach a moment of emotional clarity, that doesn’t mean necessarily that this will translate in acting of talking at my command. Sometimes I think I can’t express what I’m feeling or thinking, but when I start talking it happens with a clarity that surprises me. But also the other way round: sometimes I think I’m clear about something and it doesn’t come out at all that way in words. It is similar with acting. But once again, experimenting with strategy and authority brings about many pleasant surprises...

My G center is also defined through an unconscious channel (Discovery) and, to be honest, I have never had a very strong sense of direction in my life. When I started reading about HD I thought that I fitted better the description of someone with an undefined G but, with time, I began to see the differences with the people with undefined Gs that I know. Although most of the time I would be unable to describe it, my sense of identity is much more “solid”, consistent, not so dependent on the environment. And I see also that my desire to love is not so much to find love and direction in the other, but to find in the other someone able and willing to receive the love and direction that I continually have in me and need to express (through intimacy or activity: Discovery + Mating + Charisma, single definition). And my life definitely has a strong direction, but I am able to see it only when I look back, not before or during (Discovery is an abstract channel, and it is unconscious in me...).

Having my Sacral and my Solar Plexus defined through a conscious channel makes it easier for me to feel their impact, and that is great. However, waiting to respond and to reach the moments of clarity is far from easy. My unconscious Charisma channel contributes to the difficulty. I’m so “trained” to simply jump! For instance, someone of something triggers a negative emotional response in me and I’m immediately aware of it, but that’s not all: my body wants to act on that impulse at once (and, being a 6-3, often that implies the tendency to just break the bond...). In this respect, HD is being a true liberation for me. Before, I was surrounded by “spiritual” doctrines and people who encouraged me to simply “follow my feelings”, often with very negative results. When I heard that, for me, there was “no truth in the moment”, it seemed to contradict everything I had previously heard, but it resonated as a liberation. Oh yeah, not initiating and waiting the wave still doesn’t come easy but, without exception, it brings such fluidity... For the little everyday decisions, my response comes as a physical sensation of my sacral opening or closing. For the things that can wait, well, that is it: to wait until that moment when the process of the (powerful!) wave seems to slow down and the feeling has the “information” that I just know is valid... Even then, I have to be careful not to allow my mind to cloud that feeling with its seducing reasoning...

gennaro's comments: nice keynoting! :)

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rme
Posts: 33
Joined: 2004-05-16
Homework Authority

I thought I write about emotional authority, since it is my own, and give you my take on it...

The biggest problem with my emotional authority is that it is only half-conscious.

Very difficult for me occasionally to feel my own emotions.

My girlfriend is emotional undefined (splenic) and has a much better idea what's going on with me emotionally than I most of the time since she feels my emotions amplified of course.

Don't you hate that when someone comes up to you telling you how down you feel today and you go: 'What the hell are you talking about??'

Before HD I tend to drive people around me nuts with my decision making process. I was going: Yes, No, Yes, No, I don't know, what should I do.....for days or weeks.

Everyone was saying: Can't you make up your bloody mind!

Today I just keep to myself until I'm clear and then say (if at all) what I'm going to do.

This uncertainty was driving me mad before HD! Now I know this is my process. I give myself time. I don't pressure myself to find a decision. My mind was going into overdrive before. It thought it needed more research because of the lack of clarity.

Today I can only laugh about the whole charade! If I don't know what to do, I lean back in my chair, grinning, do something else, knowing that now simply isn't the right time do deal with it yet.

I learned to love both my ups and downs equally. The downs have such a beautiful inspiring quality that I don't get from anything else. It really gives everything a new perspective.

It's incredible how different things look in different moods.

Sometimes I come to a decision to soon, but today I feel no longer ashamed to go back and change it if I feel bad about it.

I had to learn to let my brain be the advocat (if at all) but never the judge.

I can remember the first time I met Richard Rudd.

He said to my girlfriend (splenic): 'You have to speed up'
and to me (emotional): 'And you have to slow down with your decisions'

What an amazing bit of advice in my first HD reading.

I'm a Manifesting Gennerator, and if I don't wait until I'm clear I can be a real bull in a china-shop. In the past I just starting manifesting at the word 'Go' only to stop halfway through because I didn't have a clue what I was doing and looking back horrified at the mess.

You don't want to see an emotional MG that isn't clear. It's not a beautiful sight!

Today, you say 'Go!' and I say: 'Well...You go, I stay here and may join you later.'

Gennaro's comments: thanks for this. if things or people can't wait for our process to become clear then they were never meant for us in the first place. I always use the example of the titanic (that boat that sunk on it's first trip). if your friend said to you, "quick i have two tickets to ride on the first voyage of the titanic, but we have to go now!" if you are not clear, then let your friend go. that opportunity was not for you...

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chapoutot
Posts: 28
Joined: 2005-03-05
homework 7 : Authority

Where is my authority?
I'm a non emotional being
I'm a Projector – no sacral defined
No motor is connected to the throat
My spleen is defined (conscious 26/44)
So… I'm a Projector with Splenic authority!

Well! how interesting!... I do not have to bother about who's deciding in my life:
1. When I am Self, it's very easy to get my Splenic messages; as an example, the reaction after my HD reading with Wolfgang Schubert: 'this is something for me!!!!' no doubt, big interest, lots of enthusiasm, no other reason that 'yes! that's it! do it', it is an energetic sensation, joy and sweet excitement in the cells, etc.
2. When I'm NotSelf – that is when my mind decides – it's very easy to recognize the difference: no joy, uncertainty and doubt, always a lot of arguments 'do this because so and so and so…' it doesn't come from deep inside but from somewhere in the head.

As a 2 profile, I'm supposed to wait for the call. When the spleen calls, I really do hear the call! except in confrontation or fearful situations; then my mind makes up a lot of reasons; it seems my NotSelf doesn't want to hear the instinct 'you're a man, man! do it, yeah I know the instinct doesn't want, but I tell you, you're the boss! you're in control! believe me, you'll win!...'
In this kind of situation, I have still hard time to clearly see whether the message 'don't do it' comes from the (Self) instinct or from the (NotSelf) 'avoiding confrontation and truth' strategy of the open SP. So strong is the power of the emotional conditioning on non emotional beings!

jacques

Gennaro's comments: i'm also splenic and my experience is that if i follow my splenic awareness I will feel great, but since the moment has passed i often forget why i feel great. likewise if i don't follow it i feel terrible, but i don't know why since the moment has passed and i missed the opportunity. going back in time helps me see where i went wrong.

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eridane
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Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah definition

I am a single definition, not a lot to say its exactly as it says in the self study material. Interesting that it says people sometimes find it hard to find a hook, this has been said to me and I never knew why. As I was contemplating definition last week I did a chart for the woman who cleans my house; ah the elusive quadruple spit , never found one before. The most sticking things about this woman are her very defined characteristics very much what you see is what you get, She has everything defined except the head which is totally open. And the fact that she is in such poor health. I always put her heath down to appalling diet but now I see that the state of her kidneys (she only has one which works at all and that at about 60%) may be down to her inability to process her emotions, which are totally cut off from the rest of her. She is completely unable to relax, can’t sleep and often ironing or cleaning her house at 4 or 5 in the morning. She is a single parent and although she dates she declares regularly that she doesn’t need a man for anything except sex and no man is “ getting his feet under her table”. I see the pressure she must feel from her undefined head, never having much of an education she has been doing IT courses and could now get a job in computing however she is not convinced she is good enough or intelligent enough what ever I tell her (she spends as much time fixing my computer as cleaning my house).

Gennaro's comments: this is just my theory based on what i have seen of quads: they often think they are broken. and at the same time nobody can help them. I have met few quads but none of them have an easy time. the best advice is for them to finds things they can do alone but around others.

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arcadia
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Home work:Slolar plexus

Solar Plexus
I have four six gates of Solar Plexus. I have Channel Of Mating because there are 59 gates.
There were a lot of emotional confrontations, and mother scolded very emotionally like maltreating me in childhood.

I suffer from the large of current life trouble of the interpersonal relationship. It is what doubted a little when knew that Channel Of Mating has ability of make intimacy with anyone.

I played alone since I don't have brother and sister. And I was not good at play with many people.
However, my speech and behavior were seemed to stand out somehow, and I was bullied because of them.
Anyway, I need much time to make relationship with other.

In the man and woman relation, I was very emotional. My little anxiety and word to men was seem to be "Seed that caused the misunderstanding. " for men.
Even I am not interesting in him, he seen to like me or he misunderstand that "I like him". Is this cause of my aura?

I had surrendered to such disgusts when a lot of interpersonal relationships , love, and were the parent and child relations troubles.
When I become 30 years old soon. I was saved for a while by leaving Japan, and having met the aromatherapy in Britain.

Igsault and Detriment among four 6 gates of me. As a result, this defined Solar Plexus center does have very strong energy.
Because mother's birth time zone had been understood finally in the other day, the chart was put out.
My mother is Reflector!
I think that my feelings influence mother, and she became very emotional.

I wanted to go out of the house early to escape from emotional mother when I was in childhood.
After I leave from mother, I think that she became steady feelings.
I learned to control feelings after I had passed of 30 years old. I seem to be able to wait for the wave of emotion to pass away by the yoga and meditation, etc.
I came to be able finally to talk naturally with mother. If I do not become emotional, she seems to be able to be calm.
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Ikuko Takekawa
1/3 MG

Gennaro: thank you ikuko for this. the 59-6 means intimacy will always be a very strong theme in your life, but it does not mean you will have an easy time. as a 1/3 you don't fully understand other people yet there is this very strong aura of intimacy you have. people feel that intimacy and confuse it - they think you like them but you don't - you might not even notice them! i knew a girl who had this channel and couldn't be intimate with anyone because intimacy had not worked so well in the past. but now she is ok because she has healed. this channel is about being intimate with one or two people in life, not a hundred. so it is not always right away that you find that one person.

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1/3 Manifesting Generator


Randy Coleman
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Homework: Overview of Nine Centers

Gennaro asked for us to post an overview of all nine centers in our own words. Here is mine.

Spleen
One of the three awareness centers. The Splenic Center is there to keep us alive. This intuitive sense of what it takes to survive is based on fear and each gate in the Splenic Center has a certain fear associated with it. Once a person learns to accept his or her design strategy and authority, these fears no longer carry the same sort of influence on one’s mental state, they become more of a guide for the awareness of what will be healthy or not for that person.

Defined: If the Solar Plexus is not defined, the spleen will be your authority, guided by intuition. These people tend to rarely get sick as long as they are following their design strategy. Their immune system is fixed and reliable. It can still break down however, but by the time it does the person with a defined spleen will most likely get real sick. There doesn’t seem to be much of an in between for them because they are so accustomed to having that spleen filter out anything that could keep them not feeling good. So by the time whatever it is that is breaking down their immune system has gotten far enough to get their attention, they are already sick and will most likely get much worse before they get better.

Undefined: Are you still holding on to what’s not good for you? Potential to have difficulty eliminating things and/or people that are bad for them because they think that they make them feel good. There is also the potential for tremendous wisdom for the health and well being of themselves and others because people with an open spleen need to be so in tuned to their health. Holistic medicine is good for open spleens.

Ajna

The “toy box.” Another awareness center. The mind is useful for others, useless for yourself, other than when it is called upon to come up with a concept or answer of some sort. Never your authority.

Defined: Great at conceptualizing/creating. The 11th gate is the gate of ideas, for instance. Wants to convince others (and yourself) of its great ideas and thoughts. One with a defined Ajna must always remember that your thoughts, ideas, opinions, etc. can only be shared when another being asks for them. When defined to the Head Center, the Ajna can be very active from the pressure to resolve various issues, so the awareness that your decisions are not made here is crucial.

Undefined: Are you still trying to convince everyone that you are certain? The reality is that you are incapable of truly original thought. Yet, open minds are sometimes capable of grasping enormously complex issues without any prior direction or foundation. An open Ajna is also the best evaluator of a defined Ajna. So the defined Ajna comes up with a concept and the undefined Ajna can then be asked if it’s a good one or not.

Solar Plexus

Very powerful motor. Also one of the three awareness centers. Also a pleasure center with sex and food being the primary pleasures.

Defined: Will always be your authority. You will always be on an emotional wave-either traveling up or down, therefore there is no truth in the now. Your wave changes your view as it travels from peak to valley and back, so never make snap decisions. You never know how you are going to feel about something at a later time, so you wait to get a different perspective. For bigger decisions, the longer you wait the better. The goal is clarity. Knowing that you can never be 100% certain, but that you need to be as close to clear as possible before making big decisions is the key to finding emotional balance. Emotional people can never be aware, only clear on following this strategy. Melancholy is to be allowed in these people—trying to "fix" their mood when they are down in their wave is a recipe for disaster.

People with defined Emotional Centers are here to process the highs and lows of life. This process requires time for reflection, and when given that time, it yields the most profound view of life as a human. Clarity from an emotional perspective can lead to profound wisdom.

Undefined: Are you still avoiding confrontation and truth? With the Solar Plexus being such a powerful motor you can imagine what lengths a person with an undefined emotional system will go to avoid certain confrontations if there is an underlying truth that must be faced with those confrontations. Every person is different, of course, but all of us with undefined emotional systems have to accept this as a reality of our life. We naturally do not like confrontation. Let us just go about our business. You don’t bother me, and I won’t bother you. This can be very dangerous. The bottom line is that if you are open emotionally, whatever your authority is will tell you what confrontations will need your attention, and whatever truth that needs to be faced with a certain confrontation will ultimately make you healthier as a person once it has all be resolved.

Half of humanity is undefined emotionally. Food and sex drives tend to be more elevated (can be very dangerous if in combination with other undefined centers such as the spleen and sacral). As is always the case, the best evaluator of the defined center is one with the same center undefined. Some people with open solar plexus can become so in tuned to the emotions of others that they seem empathic.

Sacral

Energy center. 70% of the world’s population have a defined Sacral Center and are categorized as generators, including manifesting generators. Generators are here to do the world’s work, guided by projectors. They are here to be builders, not slaves. Change (awaken) generators, you change the world.

Defined: Your energy is consistent and everything for you is just a question of availability. You simply must wait to respond. The sacral makes the decisions in a simple ahuh (yes) or uh uh (no). So you can't intellectualize these responses, just trust them. It can be challenging for an emotional generator not to make decisions in the now. Must simply wait and ask the question again. But having the ability to respond to life and to be able to trust this response is where the generator will find true happiness.

Undefined: Do you know when enough is enough? Can be unable to regulate certain things in their life—food, alcohol, dangerous games. Can also become super slaves if they ignore their strategy and allow the energy of a generator to amplify in them. These people are the ones that work themselves to death and spend the entire time hating it, vexingly unable to change anything.

Root Center

Pressure center (along with the head).

Defined: Will always go at your own pace. Not affected by pressure from others. Tend to handle stress very well. A defined root can put pressure on other centers to be more of what they are supposed to be.

Undefined: Are you still in a hurry to be free (of the pressure)? Tends to make you want to get through with things quickly—always in a hurry. Can also be the source of depression. Easily affected by feelings of being pressured by others.

Head Center
The other pressure center. Can, for instance, put pressure on the mind to resolve questions. Only has three gates and can only be defined through the mind.

Defined: Pressures the mind for answers. Wants to know the unknowable. Also can display natural brilliance and a command of logical progressions. But can also give you selective memory. Pressures the mind into subjectively interpreting the gaps in your memory. Emotions and an open ego can affect this greatly. A defined head and mind will never stop thinking. It also tends to have vividly remembered dreams at night, and usually has some music playing inside.

Undefined: Are you still trying to answer everybody else’s questions? Whenever this is the case, it comes from the not self and is not correct for you. These people can be viewed as “know-it-alls.”

Heart Center

Also known as the ego will center. Affects organs in the body such as the gall bladder, thymus and stomach.

Defined: People with a defined heart must know that it is OK to be confident, but also cautious not let this get them out of whatever their individual strategy is. This is the source of true will power because these people are here to prove their value on the material plane. They also can evaluate the success or failure of others. You can imagine what this does to the other two thirds of humanity that does not have a defined ego.

Undefined: Do you still have something to prove? The downfall of undefined egos--trying to prove that they are something that they are not and promising people things that they cannot or should not deliver. Everybody wants to be in control and our society beats this into our brains from a very early age. Yet the open ego needs to understand that it has nothing to prove and that it’s OK to allow the defined egos their space and not try to compete with them. The ego seems uniquely peculiar in that no other open center’s not self aura can rattle another person’s open center quite like two open egos trying to prove something. In other words, you rarely see two people with undefined emotions being overly emotional with each other. You will see them try from time to time, but an open ego will have to kick in to try to prove that they are as emotional as they think they are being. But let two open egos start arguing about some unimportant fact and have one of them imply that the other is stupid for not thinking like he or she does--now you have a genuine spectacle.

G Center

The center for love and direction in life. It also controls the liver and is the home of the magnetic mono pole. All of the gates of the G-Center are uniquely placed either at the beginning or middle of the quarters in the Rave Mandela. No other center has its gates evenly placed around the wheel like this. The eight gates of the G-Center are also unique in that four of them make up all of the variations of the cross of the Sphinx, and the other four make up the cross of The Vessel of Love. This is why your identity is tied so tightly to love and direction.

Defined: You have a strong sense of self and direction. Your identity is fixed. You are not too caught up in things like whether your life is going in the right direction or whether your latest mate is “the one.” You can still be capable of insecurities, depending on the rest of your design, but you probably won’t be announcing to your friends and family the need to “go find yourself.”

Undefined: Are you still looking for love and direction? Very important to be in the right place, this will put you in the right direction. Also need to be aware that if you are in the wrong place, you are with the wrong people. An undefined G-Center indicates an ability to play many roles, appearing as all things to all people, often appearing as quite the innocent. The undefined G can also provide a mirror for others to see what they love or hate within themselves.

The Throat Center

The throat is about transformation. It has two functions, communication and manifestation. Seven of the 11 gates in the throat are only about communication. The other four (35, 12, 45, 20) can be both communication and manifestation. At a core level everything in one’s design would like to get to the throat because here is where it can be expressed to the whole world. Just like in Rome, all roads lead to the throat. The throat also controls the thyroid.

Defined: Healthy thyroid when its host is operating according to his or her strategy. The throat speaks for that to which it is connected. A channel connected to the throat will be a consistent voice for that person, and the center(s) associated with that channel will color everything that person says. A defined throat does not necessarily create an articulate person. Their manner of speaking is fixed, so if the person does not normally speak very well, they will tend to speak in this manner forever. Regardless of the manner of speaking, a defined throat will be able to speak when called upon, unless its host is not living out their true nature. Then the throat will become the source of enormous difficulties, such as sickness and thyroid issues.

Undefined: Are you still trying to attract attention? An undefined throat feels like it’s never going to be heard, thus we get the not-self desire to attract attention. On the other hand, an open throat gives the potential for great spoken wisdom, particularly for the listening audience. Some of the world’s greatest singers and orators have carefully trained undefined throats, but these people have learned how to treat their throats, which is the true wisdom of any open center. If the person with an undefined throat gets too caught up in trying to be sure everybody is listening while they gab on and on, it will most certainly lead hoarseness and other throat maladies.

Gennaro: Randy this is really excellent. you are a good and clear writer. the thoughts are easy to read. thanks.

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rme
Posts: 33
Joined: 2004-05-16
Homework: Split definition

My definition is single split.

I have head & ajna split off from the rest of my definitions.

That means two things.

a.
I can have a mind of my own, that's out of sync with the rest of my definitions.

b.
I can have trouble expressing my mental process.

Although this sounds slightly negative and like a problem, it's not. One has to see that I'm not always meant to express my mental process, so trying to fix that would lead to problems with my real strategy and authority.

I have three half gates from my ajna to the throat. Which means I can express my mental process the best when I'm with a crowd, with friends, in a cafe, etc

Yet I have to be careful not to get addicted to that and let it rule my life.

Because I have three possible hook-ups I'm usually not addicted to one person.

If I'm looking for a small crowd so I can express my mental process and ignore my strategy/authority I feel tired and burnt-out afterwards. I'm a MG and I run out of energy very quick doing that.

Steve

Gennaro: sometimes it's not a bad thing you can't express your mind :)

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eridane
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Joined: 2004-05-28
deborah sacral

As a generator I have of course a defined sacral centre. I know very well the feeling when my motor is properly engaged, especially in the area of work. When I was working on shamanic seminars, which I loved. I could work all day, be last to bed at five in the morning and be up at eight to help with breakfast. Never felt tired or at least not till the whole week was over. The format also suited me as the one outlet from my sacral is the channel 42/ 53 and I like things with a definite beginning and end. If only the rest of life was so straightforward. When my motor is not so engaged, boy is it hard for me to motivate myself to do something. My accounts for example……aaaahhh they are on my “to wait” list all year it’s never the right time and I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the desk at the eleventh hour. Haven’t solved that one yet. In my work as an acupuncturist each appointment has a beginning a middle and an end, great. In relationships Ra says my attitude is lets get this over with. Not sure about that, it’s definitely lets get on with this and often I can see the end before it’s really begun but I still like to think there might be at least another one that lasts more than a few months LOL. Still I do have the 53;54 moon nodes , don’t like to be pinned down, have to see the way out. It will come as a huge surprise if I ever say ahha to getting married again. I always know when enough is enough and I used to be a bit judgemental about those who didn’t, especially in the area of alcohol.

Gennaro: the 42/53 aren't always into ending the relationship. they are very into doing the full process. so they can also say, let's get this relationship started already! or let's start the next level!

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chapoutot
Posts: 28
Joined: 2005-03-05
homework 6 : Definitions, personal experience

1.11/56, channel of Curiosity – unconscious
Although unconscious, I do feel the importance of this mental energy; first of all because I like very much to teach (11.4, the teacher) and the feedback of students is generally positive in terms of clarity, organizational capacity and patience. I noticed the connection between the conscious 24 and this channel: whenever my mind is under pressure of knowing the truth, not only does it become restless until it knows, but it has the need to rationalize and prepare itself for explaining in a clear way. I do feel this process very much in connection with HD.
The 56.3: 'the drive to control and be the focus of attention' or 'the drive to control the expression at the expense of stimulation'. Often I notice when I speak this hidden motivation to attract attention; this produces the counter effect! the audience gets quickly bored.
2.7/31, channel of the Alpha – unconscious
What is most obvious to me with this energy is the use I can do of it. Don't I ever know that if I step out of this channel's strategy – projector being recognized – I'm gonna get blown away!... fortunately, I'm a democrat (7.2), so if I forget to be the projector that I am, the consequences are usually soften
3.26/44, channel of Surrender – conscious
Give me something to believe in and I'll sell it with passion – HD has become a passion :=))); but please, don't call me to sell shampoos, cars and travels… I'm good at selling stories; that's why I'm a video editor.
This Heart-Spleen connecting energy gives me the blessing of having the health to support my willpower and the strong will to follow paths of good health.
As example, I'd say that I can work nights and days on a passion-project without any other consequences than a quickly reduced-by-a-good-sleep fatigue.
Fasting is a very interesting battle between instinct and will power; which one wins?!!! Well usually the later… BUT the instinct gets its revenge immediately after :D I do remember a strong 5-day dry fasting that ended with… a gorgeous meal! what to do, my friends just came back from the supermarket (bio of course!) when I got out of the fasting…
Yeah… we are binaries after all :?

Jacques

Gennaro: we are binaries - that can be like a ball bouncing chaotically between the two or it can be like a beautiful synthesis that becomes one without losig the binary

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dom
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definitions

If planets activate the gates on each end of a channel, the entire channel is colored either in black or red, and the center whose belongs to the channel too, it's called a definition, its a permanent connection, so reliable and always active,. The definitions gives us our uniqueness, everything that is defined in our chart is inherited from our ancestry, and things that are not defined are what we take from our environment.

There are 5 main definitions

SINGLE]Two or more centers connected without any cut off.This is a very consistant way of the person s' energy operate>These people don't need external influence to bridge their centers, They are whole of the time, less reason for them to hook into others, but can mean also self sufficient and could be a problem for the others who try to fit with them .

SPLIT DEFINITION

-single is the most common , two groups of centers separated from each others, each group is not always communicating to the other(s), for example you think something and your feeling is completely different, so you might need more time to get in things,

-triple

they are three different areas that need to communicate before they feel whole, as they could be seen from 3 different ways they might have friends that they have nothing to do together ,and is the typical case where in a group people said that you are for example intellectual an in another group very emotional, or it can be said :"I never think that YOU are able to do that.." All the split are interested in finding peole to join their split but more the 3 or 4 want to stay connected with their whole , it can result a social burnout in case they don't live their strategy

quadruple:

four areas of defintion separated from each other, very rare, they are very fixed because of a lot of definitions they have to experience their life through a fixed path , it means that they have at minimum eight defined centers, so lot of information coming from different ways which take time to process because of the lack of communication of the centers in the same time.
For all the split as their focus is very much about finding people who join the split, public places are very good for them to get the bridge without dependency
if you have NO DEFINITION you are a reflector, very unusual, they are here to take things in, thery are here not to be fixed, when their channel are defined is always by conditionning, the place , the environment are vey important for them

I am single split definition it's really true that I feel my potential when I work in a team or a group as I m generator spleen defined by the 27 -50 and solar plexus defined by the 41-30 I really enjoy the spontaneous thing s that could happen anywhere and at he same time new feelings or sharing experiences . but in my private life my family my husband give me the bridge of my 42 with the 53 it's nice when i't a project to finish or something that I have to manage and focus on because of my 9 activated too, less interested when he begins something in the house and not be able to finish it, (like the week end Do It Yourself!!!) .
On an other hand my twins who bridge my 3 with their 60 so pulse always waiting for something to happen , and a progressive process when we are all 4 together what conditionning!!! and even I noticed that Its a real problem for me to not be overflow by the adrenaline coming from my root to my sacral, Sometimes I really appreciate my single split ...so relax... anyway just have to learn how to live my strategy in that case more often because all the time.

Gennaro: yes very good. one thing about the quad split: they are very fixed with all the definition but they are also fragile because they need others to be whole

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arcadia
Posts: 12
Joined: 2005-09-14
Homework: Sacral and Spleen

Sacral Center
It is the conditions of Generator and Manifesting Generator that Sacral Center is defined.
In my case, Sacral is defined by 20-34 channels and 27-6 channels. For me, this is big power and symbolizes me. On the other hand, this has also been a problem for me.

In childhood, I loved tree-climbing. I hated keeping still and I was restless child.
When I climbed on the roof of gymnasium in the school, I was scolded by teacher and parents.
After that I changed to take care of the animal kept in school, and run with them.
I am active person and have a lot of vitality, but I don't like sport. Especially team event.

On the other hand, I like creative things. it is making to draw a picture or to write a novel into the lifework. It is a natural posture for myself to have influence of 20-34 channels, and to make me very busy. However, my friends are surprised in "Where the vitality is overflowing from!?."

From Sacral Center, I have by 5Gate (conscious, unconscious), 14Gate (conscious, unconscious), and 27Gate (unconscious) except the channels. Since most is the lines of 1, 2, and 3, it is imagined that the energy of my Sacral Center has a very strong individual tendency. (Although I have 59-6 channels, in human relations, I am actually poor hand.
I require time for becoming intimate with someone very very much!)

I have five gates in Sacral Center also including the channel. The Earth and the Sun where 34-20 is unconscious, and 59 gate are the Sun (consciousness). Moreover, there are four 6 gate which toward to 59 gates. (All of these four are detriment and exaltation) Probably it is thought that this state is giving me the definition very strongly in Sacral Center. The most troublesome illness for me and most out of condition are the ovary, the womb..

Spleen Center
As for me, spleen is defined by 18-58 channels. This is the only gate of my spleen center and root center as well. I am active person and occasionally also I do something even it is dangerous
I suffer headache since autonomic nervbes unstable, and chatches cold or neurotic gastritis sometime. But not so serious. I recover by takes sleep or medicine.
Although I am comparatively healthy type,
But once I had urgent operation because ovary womb exploded.
Even if work is busy and ruins health somewhat these days, in order to do my best.
I didn't aware my ill until I became the worst situation.
In order to rarely go also to a hospital, either, I have not noticed until it changed into the serious state.

About awareness of spleen.
Since my Inner Authority is Emotional Center and Emotional Center is connected with Throat Center through Sacral Center.
I think that influence is quite big.
As for me, Spleen Center and Root Center are connected in 18-58 channels. It is connected at the gate which only these two centers have. Therefore, it is difficult for me to realize awareness of Spleen Center.

Even if there is an opinion "it is better to stop now" instinctively because the power of Sacral and Emotional is too strong rather than it says, the defined channel drives to action as "do now. There is nothing and is carried out what." Therefore, I feel the sometimes big inconsistency in myself.

As for my husband, Spleen center is not defined.
Moreover, since he does not have a gate, his spleen center is white.
He said that he was liable to fall ill when he was child. Asthma, atopic dermatitis, a food allergy so on.
Thanks to his parents who do not like western medicine, he was treating using holistic medicine from a child's time.
It seems that this had become prescription for which it was suitable undefined Spleen Center.. After getting married, I need to be anxious about his health. Especially about his meal.
He is always healthy.
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Ikuko Takekawa
1/3 MG

Gennaro: very good. you wrote 27-6 instead of 59-6, but that is not an important thing :)

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rme
Posts: 33
Joined: 2004-05-16
My undefined Root

My undefined root center with only one little gate (39) can feel very uncomfortable.

I have no active gates in any of the format channels so depression is not much of an issue for me.

Yet what happens when my root gets activated is:

1. My hanging gate 39 (Disengagement) can make me feel trapped.

2. I feel an enormous pressure to get things done. Or since I also have an undefined ego, I feel an enormous pressure to prove myself.

Both of my parents activated my root centre and I lived with them in the same house until my late 20's.
It felt like hell to me. There was this incredible pressure on me all this time and the Gate 39 didn't allow me to do anything. I felt, trapped. I couldn't breathe, couldn't work. It was very physical. (39.1) 1st line.

I couldn't laugh, I couldn't sing/write. Trapped energy.
There were mornings when I felt like: 'Why bother, why do anything?'
At the same time there was this incredible pressure. I didn't go to work, yet I had stomach problems because of the stress.

I always hated deadlines. I have two ways of dealing with them.

a.
Wait until the last hour and then deal with it. Which means I try to avoid the pressure by totally ignoring it and the deadline.
b.
Going to it immediately and do it all in one go to get rid of the pressure.

The only way out of this is to NOT allow my mind to dictate my life. My mind will always suggest either to put my head into the sand and ignore everything which it thinks is the reason for that pressure, or to do everything immediately until I drop to get rid of it.

It's about time to take this burden from my mind's shoulders and explain to it that it does no longer have to deal with this ridiculous situation. That my strategy/real authority is much better equipped to handle all of that.

Steve Rhodes
emot. MG

Gennaro: as was mentioned in a previous post, the undefined root is nto as smooth with dealing with stress. it is inconsistant after all

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dom
Posts: 14
Joined: 2005-02-25
defined and undefined center

Undefined G center, for me its a benediction I can move around the world, becoming somebody new, as I can change my hair colour I feel the possibility to be amother woman when I am in another country and it's quite exiting, the main problem is when peole ask me what I am doing for living I really don't know I take care of peole that's the main subject and people take care of me 27-50 defined and undefined.but as I have the ego undefined I feel really unworthy,
sacral defined use to respond, not because I was aware but I always wait for sign to do something, I have a strong intuition but I always wait to be confirmed in by something to follow it,(dreams , music... you can call this sychronization )and can stay stuck if nothing happen,
root defined real great energy but really depress not really for a long time if I have nothing to focus on 52 defined not he 9 so can say that my life is empty, 42 defined in red not the 53 need to be concentrate for things that last not for a while and need to go to the end of a process, but it's difficult for me to start even to live my house to go shopping, it takes time,
The 3rd gate red and black if nothing happen in my life , I could feel depress but I have the 39 red and I provoke certainly my destiny seems it works like this for me(,because all the time something happen in my life) to have new feelings 41- 30 defined for the 41 and undefined for the 30 as my solar plexus is defined I really enjoy the pressure from my root center to my sacral to have new emotional waves as its my authority is also part of my reality, I always take my decisions through my emotional that had cause many problem with the others because it wasnt rational

Gennaro: yes good

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah solar plex

In our house we have two defined solar plexes and two undefined. This week only my younger daughter and I are here both undefined It’s is sooooo peaceful, no emotion flying about. As soon as one of the others walks through the door I know exactly what mood they are in, More rows and more fun but I need a break from them sometimes. Knowing about amplification has been a revelation. I remember one really wild row with my best friend who is an emotional manifestor and when she gets angry boy you don’t want to be around, I was, I amplified it. We called each other every name under the sun and then some. We couldn’t speak to each other for two weeks after then we were able to laugh about it. I love to go to gigs or clubs now and then I can really ride that high wave and dance all night though I can feel a bit flat afterwards. One funny thing about it when I was a Buddhist I used to think I had reached some higher state of emotional detachment because I wasn’t always in a state like some of my friends then…… of course I had , never had it in the first place LOL

Gennaro: i also have an open solar plex. after hanging out with a defined solar plexus it is like coming out of a music concert - my ears are buzzing from all the noise.

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah root

I have a very defined root centre. I am very good at pacing myself. Recently I have run seminars with a friend with an undefined root and looking back it was always a source of contention between us. I would say look we have four hours work to set up today and six hours to do it so lets do two then go and have lunch then do two more ….oh no she wanted to rush around and keep going till it was done and always accused me of working too slowly. She has a defined ego and solar plex guess who won! Although she worked fast somehow she would also come up with more and more jobs till the whole time was filled working.
I am fascinated by the pulse format energies I often get a sense of things being stuck and nothing moving and when I look at the today chart its always there, I can literally feel it when it’s tuned on again. I can still find it frustrating but I’m trying to learn to love those spaces.

Gennaro: yes interesting example.

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah spleen

I have a defined spleen and being an acupuncturist what I have learned about this is very interesting to me. I don’t entirely agree with all of it . For example I know I can cope with allopathic medicines better than some people but they still have pretty awful side effects and I don’t take much more than the odd painkiller. Energetic systems of medicine have always worked better for me and that was how I got into acupuncture as under stress as working as a trouble shooter in inner city schools I eventually became ill and allopathic medicine didn’t even know what was wrong with me and could do nothing to put it right. Acupuncture worked very quickly and explained what had happened I have never looked back.
Looking at charts of my clients it’s interesting to note that all the ones with post viral syndrome or ME have undefined spleens and I usually treat them on the spleen meridian. They hang on to viruses but they also hang on to fluid, which is presumably to do with conditioning. One client who was somewhat better but not quiet I advised to sleep alone. As his marriage was not too good as well he took my advise and got better very quickly. My older daughter who has an undefined spleen cannot cope with allopathic medicine at all they put her blood pressure up or bring her out in a violent rash. Though interestingly the younger one cannot take antibiotics either she throws them up within minites

Gennaro's note: i agree that this is an oversimplification. natural medicine can benefit everyone and allopathic medicine is often like taking a shower with ajax - it gets you clean but the side effects are hardly worth it. the main point is that defined spleens, once sick, are really sick and thus need a heavier treatment.

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah undefined ego

I have an undefined ego centre but I have three gates pointing towards it, therefore it is often defined. I think this is why I have been somewhat confused about relating to the keynotes for the undefined ego. I often feel unworthy and try to improve myself in various ways i.e. get slimmer fitter ect. I have never felt that I was a competitive person, I hate competitive games of all kinds, can never see the point. A friend with a defined ego accused me a few times of competing with her but I think it was her issue not mine. I do find defined egos a bit strong sometimes I always want to say heh, chill, what does it matter but clearly it matters to them. I think since experimenting with design I have begun to feel that I am good enough just as I am its refreshing.

Gennaro's comments: yes open egos can be very put off by competiton. just like open roots can hate stress

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arcadia
Posts: 12
Joined: 2005-09-14
Homework:G center & Ego center

G Center

I and my husband are not defined G center.
(I have 46 gate and husband has 1 gate )

If we want to go somewhere in holiday, we say "Where shall we go?"
Then we have no idea actual place to which we want to go.
Our talk is not settled to go out somewhere as long as there are an event etc. beforehand, and we can’t decide to go where shall we go.

However, "I want to go there" and "I want to do that in there" in our mind come out easily when talking in the place where a lot of people exist like the coffee shop for example. This seems our G centers are being defined by other people.

We don’t have car licenses. My husband says, "There is no confidence that I can obey all the traffic rules". I say, "It is scared that I get lost". (Fortunately, facilities of travel in Tokyo are very convenient. But when we go to large country like U.S.A., we might be in convenient. )

I am lost in the place visited for the first time. Therefore, it is necessary to search for the place beforehand in the map. However, it never hesitates when visiting once.

I observe my husband, he seems not to have strong identity.
However, when the switch turns on once, he says, "I want to do it by own way". He is Emotional Manifestor. If someone bother his way, he get angry.

We don’t talk about love. First of all, "Exist or not. Being together or not” is important for us. We might not associate as generally said "Love". But we enjoy each philosophy, ability, and knowledge are esteemed by each other. Another Center(except G and Ego) and some gates seem that connecting us.

Ego Center

I have 51gate(unconscious) though Ego Center is not defined.
Because this gate is unconscious, I have not felt existence of this gate strong.
Is this related to an undefined Ego center though I tend to be weak stomach, and to cause arrhythmia?

Ego Center is not defined in my husband, too
However, he has 40 gate(conscious/unconscious) and 21 gate(unconscious). As for me, two gates that existed in his undefined Ego Center had been concerned since before.

First of all, he is an inquisitive person in money. It is good at calculation of money, and he dislike that someone touch his money or his collection.

In Japan, wife usually works for management of the household economy. And husband put his income to the household economy once, then he gets pocket money from his wife.

However, my husband wants to manage own money by himself.
He becomes very nervous how much money that I have been spent for household economy.
If the calculation is not suitable, it drives him to distraction and he become very emotional.

Next, he has bias in the favor of food. I think that his unbalanced diet has the possibility caused by this gate from the relation of 40 gates to the stomach.
For instance, he dislikes beef steak, but he likes Hamburg steak. He likes Kentucky Fried Chicken, but he hates other chickens.
He likes soup that pig's extract enters, but he never eat meet.

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Ikuko Takekawa,Japan
1/3 MG

Gennaro's comments: yes you guys are really getting the grasp of the concepts now.

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chapoutot
Posts: 28
Joined: 2005-03-05
homework 5 : stories about all the centers

1.Head Center & Ajna Center – personal story, undefined Head/defined Ajna
I have Gate 24 conscious, activated by the Moon. This Gate of Rationalization keeps on pressurizing all the time on its electromagnetic 61st Gate of Mystery and Inner Truth. It's a restless energy, ever returning to the same pressure of knowing, that cannot let go of this insecurity until the knowing is there; since I can't have any control over the knowing process, it is very frustrating: the answer is never up to me!

2.Throat Center – undefined throat of my wife
What pressure does she feels when she is in a group! If there is one person who MUST speak, it's her… so afraid of a possible silence! Since no motor is connected to it, it is very hard for her to concretize.

3.G Center – personal story
Identity, love & direction are all defined, permanent and fixed. Although I wouldn't be able to answer the question 'who am I?', I do not feel the need to answer that question because, somehow, somewhere, I do know who I am, where I go, what is my purpose on this earth

4.Ego Center – defined Ego of my wife
her willpower is really strong: once she has decided, she'll go till the end; for example, learning French – she's German and languages are for her difficult – she's put so much will that not only she's studied like crazy, but she got the first note of the class; ah, I forgot to tell you that she's not any defined Ego: she's got the 25/51, channel with a design of being the first!...

5.Sacral Center – undefined in me, defined in my wife
Yes, we are one of these millions of projector/generator couples! And like all of them, one on us does decide when, how and where we'll make it! Guess who?!!!...
By the way, I highly recommend to future generator/projector couples that HE is generator and SHE is projector! It would be so nice when it's the woman who wouldn't know when enough is enough!!! At least in this horizontal matter….

6.Splenic Center – defined in me, undefined in my wife
Here again, we are one of these millions of defined/undefined spleens that couple for the sake of genetic imperatives!
How interesting to see the difference between our sense of health! I'm rarely sick and when I've got something, it generally gets fixed very quickly; I feel healthy. Isabella has always something; her physiology is so sensitive that it catches everything around; her sense of 'feel good and secure' is never there, although with me, she feels more secure.

7.Solar Plexus Center – undefined in me, defined in my wife
Ah! Here we are! The great emotional center! I feel so attracted to it and at the same time it frightens me; I really hate its power that rises and falls, never reliable, never stable and quiet; it disturbs very much my Personality (2) and delights my Design (4) in the sense that it brings reasons to socialize.
My wife for example: I love when she's in a good mood; she can really go high and bring me with (specially in sex!). And when she's down, o boy! I'd like to be 200kms away!
When she's angry, it's for her something 'normal'! For me, it's terrible: I get that anger, amplify it; it feels like I would be the garbage can next to her, where she throws away her bad things!

8.Root Center – personal story, undefined Root
Quick! quick! I must finish this… (this homework of course). I hate that pressure to produce and do! When will I finally be FREEEEEEEE! My dream? lay down near a chimney fire in a woodhouse surrounded by a nature under 2 meters of snow. Of course, the frig must be full (I've Gate 19!!!)

Jacques

Gennaro's comments: yes very good!

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Randy Coleman
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Homework for the voices of my throat

I have three gates defined in my throat; The 56, 35, and 8.

I believe that I feel like a change in my contribution to the creative process.

I know that I can make a contribution and I believe that it will change my experience.

I feel like I can change my contribution, but I don't believe that it will make a difference.

I feel like a change in my contribution and I believe it will prove beneficial.

Gennaro's comments: good. try this varitation on keynotes (just circuitry): let me share something that will empower you.

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah G center

I love having an open G. I enjoy the possibilities that being a chameleon gives me, I have such diverse groups of friends. I sometimes find it hard to understand friends who are more fixed and only have one persona, my ex and I used to have a lot of arguments over some of my odder friends who he disliked and could not understand why I wanted to spend time with. I have also always loved to travel to exotic places and enjoy taking them in and I think (?) it gives me memories, which are kinaesthetic as well as visual, and auditory, I remember how a place feels. It was interesting to me when I was first told, “ who you are is where you are and whom you’re with “. My response was” isn’t that true for everyone? “ It’s been fascinating to look at others and see that it is not. As to not having an identity I always looked on that as my identity as in I’m a very flexible person or I’m someone who can fit in anywhere.
Finding the right place is also fascinating, each time I have bought a house it has been an instant recognition that that was “ my house “. Also when I began learning acupuncture 20 years ago I remember after about 20 minutes of the first lecture relaxing with a smile on my face thinking ahh I’m in the right place. The same thing happened to me in Ibiza.
The lack of a sense of direction is not something I relate to which is probably ( as you pointed out Genaro ) due to having four gates including the 2. My direction does get struck sometimes but I think that’s to do with gate 60.
The looking for love ….. I could write a book. Maryann Winiger summed it up for me the other day on the radio and I realise I have changed. I no longer loose myself in other people in order to feel loved. In fact I hardly ever think about love any more . I am currently dating someone who also has an open G, we define it for each other ( he has the 14 I have the 2 ) We spend a lot of time talking about the bigger love. We actually seem to agree it’s a revelation, like with like !

Gennaro's comments: the two of you can have fun trying to get your diferent friends to mix (or not mix, whatever the case may be)

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eridane
Posts: 12
Joined: 2004-05-28
Deborah throat gates

My throat gates are the 62, I think or I don’t think, the 56, I believe or I don’t believe and the 45 I have or I don’t have. All are unconcious though the 45 is concious as well.
Its hard to really put all three together but clearly they go well in pairs; I think I believe or I think I have, I believe I have or I think I believe. I’m sure I have used these phrases over and over my whole life. Having an open ajna its handy to preface things with I think implying a lack of certainty.
It’s been an interesting part of my experiment to wait to only speak in response I have definitely found I get a better reaction to what I say. I still have a problem knowing when to stop especially with a question like what is this human design then? I have noticed that if I say very little I seem to leave people wanting to know more rather than trying to tell them too much which is still my natural inclination. After a party recently where I shared only a tiny bit of information with each person who asked me what I’m up to these days, I got three calls the next week asking me to tell people more and obviously seeing them alone and not in a party atmosphere is much better for telling them more.

Gennaro's comments: projectors speak with their aura. we all do, but projectors get recognized via the aura, not really by what they say

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arcadia
Posts: 12
Joined: 2005-09-14
Voices of the throat

I have one defined channel and 2 gates in my throat.
20/34 the channel of Charisma. 20 "I am now" unconscious
16 "I think" conscious
62 "I experiment" unconscious

I think (16)because I experiment(62) in now(20). Or I experiment to think now.

Friends say to me, "Keep an eye on details". Actually, there is often what likes to think about things, and points out the point that people do not notice, too.
According to circumstances, when even the matter is not important for them, I try to present specifics.

I sometime feel that I give priority to actions more than speak.
Is it because 20-34?
I might feel the necessity for the close examination for speak even I should say immediately.
Also I sometime say, "Do not understand if I don't try(examine)" in addition to it is certain.

I have 22 conscious,36 unconscious in my emotional center.
I think I have kind of pressure to "Try" and "feel".
Especially "I Try", I conscious until expecting that "I Try" and "I experiment" will be compared from situation to me who is the action subject.

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Ikuko Takekawa, Japan
1/3 MG

Gennaro's comments: yes with the 34-20 you speak with actions

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rinne6
Posts: 11
Joined: 2005-01-06
Voices from defined Throat

I am a 5/1 MG with 5 Throat activations, most of them conscious.

31/7 channel
13/33 channel
16 cons and unconsc
12 cons and uncons
35 unconsc

Most of what I say comes from wanting to share with others and influence them if possible.

I experiment (16) to try (12) to influence others (31) by sharing what I remember (33).
I try (12) to influence others (31)by sharing (33,35) new experiences (35).
I feel like (12)experimenting (16) to try (12)to influence you (31)with my remembering (33).

This doesn't ring completely true for me -- mostly I am trying to influence people with what I observe now. Ultimately I want to share with them what is practical, sometimes the useful information comes from memory, sometimes from the insights I have about the present. On second thought, the insights are usually about patterns.

Becky McDowell

Gennaro's comments: your profile of 5/1 will play a lot in this - practical 5

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wightswan
Posts: 13
Joined: 2005-04-23
Throat voices - homework for 12-27-05

Defined throat; four gate activations:

62.1, 62.3, 62.4; I think or not.
56.4; I believe or not.
12.5; I know I can try or not.
45.1; I have or not.

I notice the voice of gate 45 and the channel 45/21 the most since it's a complete conscious channel connected obviously to two defined centers, the throat and heart/ego center.

The voice I hear from this channel is: I have this, and I don't have that. And with an open head and ajna, when I walk into any store, I hear: I don't have all this. I should have all this. I don't have the money to buy what I want to buy. This voice is all about having or not having. Gennaro said in my Chiron Return reading, "You're not here to be the beach bum, you're here to own the beach."

This voice that speaks to me of not having seems to be with me most of the time. It's just sort of in the background. It feels terrible. It does not come from a place of peace.

Ra talks about the 45/21 as a manifesting channel and as having the most willpower.
With gate 54.6 in my personality sun, and 54.4 personality in Mercury, and 54.1 personality in Venus, maybe this is why I have used my energy and willpower to seek transformation on a spiritual level instead of making money. My drive and will has always been towards transformation and for some reason, I have never learned how to make money, even through this is the Money Line channel.
Ra says the model motto of the 45/21 is to protect and serve. I much more relate to this piece of this channel. Ra says the 54.4 is the most mystical of all gates. He says the truth hiding in the ego circuit is that the spirit is hiding in the mundane. To learn to combine the mundane and the spiritual is the reason why we are here, he says.

I know I have suppressed the voice from my heart/ego and throat. I know it is said that if this voice is suppressed, it can be damaging to one's organ systems in the body.

I can and do respond from my defined sacral and spleen, but I'm not completely sure how to use my heart/ego to throat voice. I am still learning this.

The awareness of conditioning allows me to see that it really is quite something to transcend conditioning and live life as YOURSELF. Living into this and experiencing it as it unfolds is such an adventure.

Susan 6/2 MG

Gennaro's comments: yes good. people with the 45-21 tend to be a little extreme - no money at all or lots of it. through service to the tribe you can find the balance. my girlfriend owns a spa, for example.

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rme
Posts: 33
Joined: 2004-05-16
Voices of the throat

I have two defined channels in my throat.

35-36 (half unconscious) "I experience"
8-1 (also half-unconscious) "I know I can make a contribution"

and then two gates

62 "I think" conscious
56 "I believe" unconscious

I can definately associate with "I experience" and "I know I can make a contribution"

Since they are both unconscious, looking in the past I can see it happening a lot.

It's definately the way I act in the world.

I can and DO talk for hours on end about my experiences. If I don't follow my strategy I can annoy the hell out of people with this and can hijack conversations. If I don't respond, people don't even bother listening and never take anything in I say.

My acting in the world definately spins around the theme 'Can I make a contribution or not'. If I can't I tend to stay in the background. Yet if I could make one I still have to learn to follow my strategy to wait to respond.

Sometimes my not self strategy of the open ego tries to abuse me in showing my self-worthines in making a contribution that no one asked me to do.

The two hanging gates 'I think' & 'I believe' are not my main theme, yet I tend to flavour my acting through the two defined channels (contribution/experience) with a lot of 'I think' & 'I believe' when expressing myself.

Steve

Gennaro's comments: yes good. the pressure to jump will neverl go but with understanding you can flow into it via strategy

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chapoutot
Posts: 28
Joined: 2005-03-05
homework 4 - Throat Center

1. PERSONAL STORY ABOUT THE THROAT CENTER
I'm always fascinated by the difference of impact my throat has! Whenever I speak from my 'soul', my very being, from that 7th Gate in the G Center, I get full attention from the audience; then, there is real influence coming out of the 31st Gate – which by the way do not have to say 'I lead', although it has a leading impact.
Whenever I try to share ideas coming from my mind (Gate 11), it doesn't take more than 2 minutes before the feedback comes from the audience 'how boring!!!' I'm learning then to immediately stop talking.
2. WEAVING OF MY VOICES
 I lead (31) because I am now (20) believing (56) that I know that I can (12) remember (33) what I have/not (45); from this whole process, I am just aware/conscious of the facts that I am now and that I have/not; the rest is totally unconscious.
 I believe/not (56) that I can lead (31) because I know that I can/not (12) be in the now (20) and remember/not (33) what I have (45)
 I have/not (45) the remembrance (33) when I am/not in the now (20) that I should believe (56) in my knowing that I can (12)
 Etc…
Jacques

Gennaro's comments: interesting about the 11 vs 31. Maybe you are framing the info of the 11 wrong. mayeb is you told other people's stories it would work.

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Randy Coleman
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Homework for the Head

The best example that I can think of for an experience that I have had where I was able to see a clear difference between my defined mind and an open head/ajna has to be when I see this applied kineasiologist for my various back problems. The doctor that I see also happens to be the same guy that encouraged me to get a Human Design reading several years ago. So we have plenty to discuss when I go see him.

This doctor has exactly one gate activation in his head and ajna and we usually talk the entire time that he is treating me, which is somewhere around 30-45 minutes. What is so fascinating to me is that he can carry on this entire conversation while simultaneously putting me through all of these various strength activation tests. I can't even keep track of which arm he wants me to lift if I'm in the middle of answering a question, yet he converses with me throughout the entire session effortlessly.

They call a defined mind fixed and it is sometimes referred to as being "one track." My one-track fixed mind can only do one thing at a time and there is no doubt that I could not possibly follow some treatment methodology while simultaneously carrying on a conversation that has a totally unrelated topic. My doctor friend's wide open mind does this so easily that the conversation practically becomes part of the treatment.

Gennaro's comments: it would be interesting to study if multitasking and open minds go together

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A Transpersonal Profile, The 5/1

I'm a little late posting this, but posting it I am.

I seem to know quite a few people with the 5/1 as a profile and I've seen this work in many different ways.

My best experience with the 5/1 was in listening to Ra talk about having this profile. He was talking about being a heretic and said this as though he was introducing himself, "Hello, Heretical Investigator Ra Uru Hu." Then he said something to the effect of "Look, I'm a heretic, and I'm a good one." That really stuck with me. Everybody thinks that since he is the founder of Human Design that he should really relate to things like being a vegetarian, or not smoking. Thus you get the projection element of the 5. But Ra chain smokes and likes hamburgers. And the really good part about this is he has the 57-20-10, yet he chain smokes? Nothing more heretical than that.

Ra then talked a bit about his investigative nature. He said it's what he used to build the entire foundation of the Human Design System. He then took his 51-25 and transpersonal karma and initiated us into his foundational knowledge. It also didn't hurt that his incarnation cross was the left angle cross of the Clarion. So he blew his horn a bit. He said that as long as everything he was blowing his horn about was of practical value, "they'd get it." This summed it up for me.

Gennaro's comments: yup.

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Open Head and Ajna centers.

I was born with naturally skeptical mind with the pressure to doubt and question(64), to resolve the past(63) and to know something totally new(61). I experienced to feel the pressure a long time ago when I used my mind to solve the problems. Today I still have my doubts, I feel confuse sometimes and I always look for something new to learn, but all these processes inspire me, I really enjoy it and I have a lot of fun. I was a professor math/physics in Russia, I pursued a spiritual education here in America resulting in PhD in Metaphysics and now I learn HD, for me to learn how the Universe Laws works from the academical, the spiritual and the mechanical points of view brings me closer to the true.

Gennaro's comments: yes you are here to study what can't be answered! you are here to study the questions. you are here to show other people the questions. not the answers, just the questions. questions are beautiful. how boring the world would be if all questions had answers.

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